Hello everybody. I hope you’re all safe & healthy and maintaining your sanity in this Coronavirus world we now find ourselves in.
If you’re a rental property owner or investor, you might have some questions about the State of Michigan's Executive Order to stay in place and what this means to you. We still have tenants to take care of, buildings to maintain, units to fill, and bills to pay. It’s not always clear which of those activities are considered essential, and which ones will get us in trouble.
Luckily the Rental Property Owners Association has been in communication with the Governor’s office here in Michigan, and we’re going to clarify what you can and can’t do in this very special episode with Clay Powell, the Director of the RPOA of Michigan and Grand Rapids.
You can access the RPOA’s online courses by going to www.rpoaonline.org
You can also call the RPOA at 616-454-3385
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I hope all of you are safe and healthy. Here in Michigan we are on lockdown, and wherever you are in the world I hope you’re doing well and taking this coronavirus pandemic seriously.
There is no way to discuss real estate right now without admitting that every asset-class will be impacted heavily. Today I’m talking with Kevin Bupp about his investments in mobile home parks across the United States to find out how he believes they’ll hold up in this new economic reality. Kevin is going to share the high-level conversations he’s been having with his team and the processes they’ve put in place to help their residents who suddenly find themselves unable to pay their rent.
We’ll also be discussing Parking Lots as an Asset Class. Kevin is going to share why they’re such an under-appreciated & over-looked asset, the economics of owning them, and how he’s finding Mom & Pop type operators who are willing to sell them.
Kevin is the Founder & CEO of Sunrise Capital Investors and he has over 16 years of experience and over $100 Million in transactions. He teaches others how to invest in mobile home parks through his Mobile Home Academy and he also hosts the very popular podcast “The Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast”.
If you’re looking for a deep dive into the in’s & out’s of mobile home park investing you can listen to my previous conversation with Kevin on episode #181 of this show. You can find out more about Kevin by going to https://www.kevinbupp.com
This coronavirus pandemic has changed our society and the way we live in a very short amount of time. Those of us who own investment property can’t help but ask: “How bad will it get, what does this mean for my investments, and will there be new opportunities that arise from these unfortunate circumstances?”
There are so many opinions and overnight experts sharing those opinions, that it can be difficult separating the good information from the bad. That’s why I’m excited to have Neal Bawa on the show today in order to cut through the clutter and give us a clear-eyed perspective on what we can expect.
Neal is not only a real estate expert with a $250 + million portfolio of multifamily, mixed-use and self-storage, but he’s also a technologist who successfully applies data science to his systems and processes. Neal is also the CEO and Founder of Grocapitus and Multifamily University and he’s known as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily.
In our conversation today, Neal is going to help us understand the two distinct scenarios that could occur depending on our government’s willingness to put many parts of the U.S. on lockdown. He’ll discuss the outlook for multifamily and apartment investors and breakdown the different asset classes on their vulnerabilities to the economic shock. Neal will also share the types of opportunities he sees on the horizon and whether you should be doing any deals right now.
If you own and invest in real estate then you’ll definitely want to hear what Neal has to say. He’s not going to sugar-coat the truth, and there are some silver linings that could help us survive and thrive through this difficult time. If you want to learn more about Neal or get access to his timely webinars, you can go to:
Are we heading into another recession? If so, how will it affect housing and real estate prices? Mike VanderWoude doesn’t have a crystal ball to answer that question, but what he does have is historical data from the previous five recessions to help us understand what might happen. And you’ll probably be as surprised as I was by his answers.
And if you’re wondering what effect the Coronavirus is having on real estate so far, Mike also shares his ‘on-the-ground’ perspective in a quick update at the end of this episode.
Mike is an Associate Broker at Edison Brokers + Co in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He was also a guest on Episode #79 where we discussed his dilapidated & run-down 2-unit that he had purchased and renovated on the West-side of Grand Rapids. It was right next door to a 4-unit that I owned. Since then, Mike has purchased my 4-unit and he’s going to let us know how its working out.
I believe you’ll find great reassurance from Mike in this episode that, based on historical data, real estate is likely to do okay during these turbulent times. You’ll also learn the value of ‘controlling the corner’ and playing real life ‘Monopoly’. You can get in touch with Mike by email or phone:
What do you do if you have a 'no pet' policy and your tenant decides that they need an Emotional Support Animal. What if that animal happens to be a pig, or a goat, or a bat? Well, as crazy as it sounds, this is happening to landlords and its protected by laws and rental rules.
Part of the RPOA's mission is to fight these types of laws that are adverse to a rental property owner's ability to control the well-being of their property and business.
And helping us fight these laws and pass better ones here in Michigan is Tabitha Zimny, an Associate Lobbyist for Karoub Associates out of Lansing. Also joining us is Clay Powell, the Director of the RPOA of Michigan and Grand Rapids.
Today we're going to discuss legislation having to do with Emotional Support Animals, Short-Term & Vacation Rentals, Rent Control, and the upcoming LLC bill that allows landlords the ability to represent themselves in eviction court even if they own their property through an LLC.
Clay will also be making a special announcement regarding the new Short-Term Rental Association which will be representing Short-Term & Vacation rental owners across Michigan. We'll also discuss the RPOA PAC fund, which brings us to the table with our lawmakers in order to have influence on the votes and decisions they make.
If you own rental property it is imperative that you know what's going on at the legislative level that will affect your business. After listening to this episode you'll have a much better understanding of the gauntlet a bill has to go through to become a law, as well as the importance of the RPOA and Tabitha in shaping those laws.
My guest today is Rod Khleif, who many of you know through his popular podcast “Lifetime Cashflow through Real Estate Investing”, or his bestselling book “How To Create Lifetime Cashflow through Multifamily Properties”, or his many Real Estate Training & Multifamily Events that Rod personally teaches every year.
Some of you may even remember that Rod & I both started our respective podcasts in early 2016 within weeks of each other. In fact, we were both guests on each other’s shows with Rod appearing on episode #23 of this show, and I appeared on episode #28 of his.
But what’s shocking to realize is that even though we both started on a level playing field, Rod has completed almost twice as many podcast episodes. While this show has over 800,000 listens, Rod’s show has ten times that many at over 8 Million! This show has 133 ratings & reviews, Rod’s has over 1,100!
On just about every level, Rod has managed to blow away all of the competition.
Not only that, but Rod is a multiple business owner & philanthropist, has owned over 2000 homes and apartment buildings, and has built over 22 businesses worth tens of millions of dollars.
How does he do it? What is the secret to his success. Well I’ve been lucky enough to become friends with Rod and even joined his Multifamily Boardroom Mastermind Group, and I believe I understand why he excels on every level. And that’s partly what we’re going to discuss today – what makes Rod tick, what is the secret to his massive success, and how can you take that secret and make it part of your own success.
Today, Rod is going to take us through his goal-setting process, share how and why he insists on adding massive value, and discuss how he's pushed past his own self-limiting beliefs. If you're looking for a huge boost to your mindset then this is the episode you want to listen to.
Rod is also sharing a $100 discount on his MultiFamily boot camp taking place in Orlando May 1st-3rd. You can access this discount by going to https://rodsbootcamp.com and entering the code "RPOA"
My guest today is the nation’s leading Self-Storage Investor and trainer. He has bought, developed, and sold over 4,200 units and over 4 million square feet of commercial and self-storage properties.
Of course, I’m talking about Scott Meyers, who’s presentation at our 2019 Annual Conference was such a BIG HIT we’ve decided to bring him back for round two at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan this February 27th through 29th. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
At this week's conference Scott will be sharing the latest strategies in Self Storage Investing:
How to find undervalued deals where nobody else is looking,
How to Convert distressed commercial properties into self-storage,
How to evaluate a good market for self-storage,
And how to fund those self-storage deals.
And in today’s episode we’ll be talking about ways to mitigate risk in the next recession, why Self-Storage will continue to be a strong asset class, how Scott is raising private equity, the importance of training, coaching, and mentorship, ground-up construction, how Scott invests in multiple states, and the difference new technologies are making in the self-storage industry.
There's a lot of great new information in today's conversation with Scott. You can also listen to our previous conversation on Episode #159.
And visit our show on Facebook to leave comments and ask questions by going to "RPOA Rental Property Owner & Real Estate Investor Podcast"
You've heard us talk about it, and you've listened to the episodes with our featured speakers from all over the country. Now its time for you to make the commitment to be there at the "Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo of 2020", happening February 27, 28, & 29 right here in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
In this special episode, Clay Powell and I discuss all of the fantastic featured speakers, breakout sessions, and opportunities for networking with other like-minded investors and vendors. This is an event you don't want to miss!
Go to https://rpoaonline.org/annual-conference/ to register, and we'll look forward to seeing you there!
Today I’m thrilled to have the “Queen of Rehab”, Robyn Thompson back on the show. Robyn has renovated and sold over 390 properties. She is the nation’s leading expert on buying, renovating and selling homes for huge chunks of cash and has taught thousands of students how to become financially independent.
Robyn will also be a featured speaker at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan this month, February 27th through 29th of 2020. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
Since our last conversation, Robyn has acquired 15 Vacation Rentals in Branson, Missouri and Florida. Robyn will be sharing how she’s integrated her highly successful rehab program into this new buy and hold investment strategy—providing more flexibility for rehabbing for flips or for holds. Robyn will teach you how to map out all of the hurdles, pitfalls and paydays when renovating for profits and building passive wealth!
Robyn will also be sharing her wisdom on working with contractors, and building a team of mature adults who can actually get the work done. Robyn recently built a six-bedroom vacation rental property, and we'll be discussing how that process went. You'll also learn how she built up her teams and systems for the Vacation Rental business as well.
Robyn is a great speaker and has an incredible amount of wisdom to share. You can also listen to my previous conversation with Robyn on episode #53.
And visit our show on Facebook to leave comments and ask questions by going to "RPOA Rental Property Owner & Real Estate Investor Podcast"
My guest today believes that Wholesaling is the simplest, quickest, lowest risk, and lowest hassle way to make money in real estate today. But you have to know the right strategies for finding properties, attracting buyers, and getting to the close.
That’s why I’m excited to be talking with Vena Jones-Cox, who is also known as 'The Real Estate Goddess'. Vena is a self-described 'Real Estate Geek' who has done it all: landlording, flipping, wholesaling – you name it. Vena does at least 50 real estate deals every year – focusing on finding great deals and then lease-optioning or wholesaling properties to new buyers. She teaches 1,000’s of other investors how to do the same.
Vena is the past president of the Cincinnati REIA, the Ohio REIA, and the National REIA", and she will be a featured speaker at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan this February 27th through 29th. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
Today, Vena will be discussing the mistakes she's seeing Wholesalers make, as well as the bad advice they're receiving that is giving them a bad name. Vena will discuss her Best Practices, and the importance of automating your business with real people who are trained to physically inspect the properties and understand it's true value. Vena will also tell us what happens to Wholesaling when the market slows down, and her economic outlook for the next six years.
You can also listen to my previous conversation with Vena on episode #55. And visit our show on Facebook to leave comments and ask questions by going to "RPOA Rental Property Owner & Real Estate Investor Podcast"
So many Real Estate Investors that I talk to are frustrated with today's market. Many properties that are listed by agents are receiving multiple offers and sellers are listing at prices too high to make a decent return on investment.
Wouldn't it be nice to know how to find properties for sale that aren't listed anywhere and there's virtually no competition?
Tony Youngs is an expert at finding this Hidden Market of Distressed Properties, and he's back on the show today to tell us how to find these Hidden Gems in your own neighborhood.
Tony was also a guest on episode #50, and he's also returning to Grand Rapids for the RPOA 2020 Annual Conference & Expo, which is happening February 27-29 at the Devos Place Convention Center. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
On today's show Tony & I are going to take a deep dive into the conversations he has with sellers, how he approaches them, the phrases and tactics he uses, how he makes his offer, and whether the buyer or seller should be the first to name the price.
I know you're going to enjoy this episode because there's a lot of actionable advice from Tony that will provide tremendous value to the success of your next offer.
My guest today has over 35 years of investing experience, and he’s personally completed more than 2,000 real estate deals, making hundreds of millions of dollars. He’s a dealmaker, teacher, and walks the talk.
And today, John Burley will be sharing some of his secrets of how he uses other people’s money to do his deals, and how you too, can become an expert in raising private money.
John is going to be a featured speaker at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan next month, February 27th, through 29th. Go to rpoaonline.org to find out more.
John will reveal The Secrets of Raising Private Money, and the seven simple steps anyone can follow to get money in your pocket now. You’ll learn how to get paid up front, during, and at the end of the deal, and you’ll also learn techniques to help you take control of your financial future using real estate!
And visit our show on Facebook to leave comments and ask questions by going to "RPOA Rental Property Owner & Real Estate Investor Podcast"
Note buying is a super-hot investment strategy, and my guest today, Donna Bauer, knows how to do it the right way. She began buying notes 20 years ago as a way to support her four young boys while still remaining a stay-at-home-mom.
Today, she is the nation's most recognized authority on note buying. As the founder and president of NoteBuyer, Inc., her strategies on note buying and short sales have had tremendous results for her student/investors.
Donna will also be a featured speaker at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan this February 27th, through 29th. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
Donna was a guest two years ago and you can listen to episode #106 to learn more about her background and the basics of her strategies. Today we’re going to do a deeper dive into the advantages of buying performing notes, as well as a challenge she recently accepted to deploy $100,000 of SDIRA money to achieve 30% plus returns in one year.
Donna also shares how she gets her notes to pay off early, the two profit centers of a discounted note, and the quality of notes she typically looks for. There’s a lot of great info in this episode about profiting from notes without having to spend any of your own money. Enjoy!
What do you do if you don’t have a ton of cash to get into real estate investing? Many people are looking for a way to start investing, but they don’t want to go to banks or hard money lenders. Well my guest today may just have the answer for those investors.
Jim Aydelotte teaches how anyone can put $5,000 to $15,000 in their bank account in 30 days or less using simple techniques that don’t require you to have a lot of cash. Today we’re going to talk about structuring win-win deals in today’s market with Lease Options, and according to Jim, they’re the fastest way to make money in real estate.
Jim is The Lease Option Coach and is a nationally recognized and ultra-successful lease option expert. He coaches hundreds of students all over the country and he will also be a featured speaker at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan, this February 27th, through 29th. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
Today, Jim is going to tell us the difference between a ‘Sandwich’ Lease Option, and a ‘Cooperative’ Lease Option. He’ll also give us real-life examples of his greatest successes as well as his worst-case scenario. Spoiler Alert – Jim has never lost money with this strategy. Jim will also discuss how this ‘no-risk’ strategy will perform during the next downturn or recession, and how it works no matter what the economy is doing.
No matter where you are in your real estate investing path, you’ll definitely want to check out today’s episode. Jim’s strategies are simple to understand and accessible to every type of investor.
After a devastating divorce and bankruptcy, my guest today, a single mother of 2, rebuilt her life through real estate. In the process, she accidentally stumbled upon a unique method for buying and profiting in real estate without using any of her own money or credit.
And In just 3 years, she mastered the process, building her net worth to over $5,000,000 and $100,000 per month in positive cash flow! Today her business runs practically on AUTOPILOT, and she can focus on her family, growing investments, and helping others succeed.
I’m excited to be talking with Dixie Decker, who’s going to be sharing her inspirational story, and how you can get 4 times your cash flow by investing in student housing. We’ll discuss how you can pay market value for a property, and still double, triple, or quadruple the average investors single-family cash flow. Dixie will also discuss her systems for leasing and managing the properties, as well as the difference between single family student housing and the larger student apartment complexes.
Dixie will also be a featured speaker at the 2020 Michigan Landlord & Real Estate Investor Annual Conference & Expo in Grand Rapids, Michigan this February 27th, through 29th. Go to www.rpoaonline.org to find out more.
Mikey Taylor was one of the most recognizable Pro-Skateboarders on the Planet. In his two decades of professional skateboarding he had lucrative sponsorship contracts, merchandise, and seven pro-model shoes. So why would he leave all that behind to become a real estate investor?
Today we're going to find out how professional sports prepared him to become an entrepreneur and principal at Commune Capital where he's committed to assisting the next generation define the New American Dream.
Mikey is going to share how early on his parents provided for his financial education by introducing him to a key mentor. You'll also learn how his successful shoe line(s) prepared him for post-sports success, and how professional sports can push one to the brink of destruction and quite often leaves them unprepared for the aftermath.
We'll also go into detail on the type of real estate investing Mikey has been doing, as well as the fund he's created to increase his investing momentum. It's always fascinating to talk with someone who has been at the top of their game in one world, and is now playing at the same level in the real estate world. I know you're going to enjoy this episode, and it's the perfect way to start off the New Year.
You can contact Mikey by email: firstname.lastname@example.org
Or through the web: https://communecapital.com
Today we're going to discuss the Buy & Hold model and compare it to the Lease Option model with Anne Amagrande. Anne is a serial entrepreneur and owner of Grande AMA & Associates. She's an expert on Real Estate Investing, Generational Wealth, and owning and growing businesses.
Anne will discuss her model of providing lease options that serve both her homeowners and investors, how she times her contracts for maximum tax benefits, and how she structures her investments for passive investors and the returns they typically achieve.
Anne will also be discussing the fear most first-time investors face and how to get past that in order to accomplish your first deal. She'll also discuss the importance of building a team, and who her early mentors were.
Anne is also passionate about financial literacy and has a lot of great information to share for every level of investor. You can contact Anne through linkedin, or email her at email@example.com
In 2011, Reed Goossens quit his job in Australia and moved to the United States to become a Real Estate Investor. He ended up in New York with no job, network or family, all he had was a Gut-Feeling that he could be successful.
Nine years later Reed controls over $150 Million in Commercial Real Estate, is a Best-Selling Author, and hosts a podcast called "Investing In The U.S."
On Today's episode, Reed is going to share how he made it all happen, starting with his first 3-Unit in a low income neighborhood. He'll also share how he found a mentor who set him on the path to success, his perspective on the U.S. Real Estate Market V.S. the rest of the world, and the shifting Return-On-Investment expectations that investors should be realistic about.
Reed has found great success in this country, and I'm excited to have him share his story with you. You can reach Reed through his website: https://www.reedgoossens.com
Mark Owens once owned a successful Computer Training Business, until he left it behind to find Financial Freedom through Real Estate Investing. Now he hasn't earned W-2 Income for over 10 years, and he's been investing in the Baltimore, Maryland area for the past 17 years, growing his portfolio from 1 to over 100 rental units.
Mark has created a lifestyle that allows him to help others invest in Buy & Hold Rentals, and he provides education through investor meet ups, classes, Facebook live, and podcasts like this one.
Today we're going to discuss why Mark has succeeded where others have failed, why he's never made a 'mistake', and the difference between 'going with your Gut', and obtaining the knowledge to be successful.
Mark will also share how he was able to grow his portfolio so quickly, how he hired his team, and how he can 'force' appreciation on residential properties.
I know you'll enjoy this conversation with Mark. There's a lot of great wisdom and advice on becoming a successful investor. You can find out more through Facebook: Mark Owens REI, or contact him through email: Mark@MarkOwens.com
The RPOA teaches a number of excellent courses for all levels of real estate investors and landlords. One of the more unique and specialized courses we teach is called “Rehabbing for Rental and Flipping Profits”, and its taught by Justin Workman, who is in the studio with me today.
Now this course is not your typical overview. It covers everything from A to Z, and includes on-site visits to existing properties for real world cost and labor estimations. Many of you already know that Justin is an experienced investor and licensed builder himself, and he’ll personally be teaching all three sessions of this multi-day course.
If you’re in the Grand Rapids area, or are close enough to drive, you should definitely consider this one-of-a-kind course, which is happening next week, December 9th, 11th, & 13th of 2019 at the Rental Property Owners Association.
To register or get more information, go to www.rpoaonline.org
My guest today has figured out a way to make rental property ownership easier and more profitable, and he's going to share his unique approach to making money and building wealth through rental properties.
David Friedman is a Boston-based real estate Entrepreneur and founder of Knox Financial, which is focused on helping people convert their homes into rental properties and managing those properties for them.
He's also written several articles for Forbes.com with advice for landlords, including "Five ways to maximize investment property returns", and "How to avoid 6 common rental property pitfalls". We'll be discussing these articles, which include some very interesting ideas.
David can be reached through his website:
Today's guest is going to help us rethink debt. Specifically the type of debt we might put on a Real Estate Investment. Instead of going to a traditional bank or lender, did you know that there is a Tax-Advantaged way to loan that money to yourself?
Mark Willis is going to explain how this is possible through a Super-Charged, Modernized, and Maximized Whole Life Insurance Policy. Mark is a certified financial planner, two-time best-selling author, and owner of Lake Growth Financial Services. He also hosts the "Not Your Average Financial Podcast" and helps his clients invest in real estate without going broke while creating retirement income that they won't outlive.
Mark will be pushing back on the conventional wisdom regarding whole life insurance v.s. term life insurance, and explain how a whole life insurance policy, properly set up, can be used to loan money toward your investments. He'll also discuss the tax benefits and the returns you can expect.
Since this is a new concept to me as well, I do my best to ask Mark a lot of detailed questions about how Whole-Life Insurance Lending really works. If you're looking for more tax-advantaged ways to lend yourself money and fund your deals, then this is definitely an episode you won't want to miss.
Mark can be contacted through his website www.growmorewealth.com
My guest today is focused exclusively on investing in Multifamily & Apartments. With his partners he's invested in 11 different properties with over 2,300 units.
But Randy Langenderfer wasn't always a Multifamily investor. He got his start in Real Estate Investing by House Hacking his first duplex before becoming a Hard Money Lender.
Today we're going to discuss how & why Randy made the leap to Apartments, and how he managed to grow his portfolio so quickly. Randy is also going to share his experiences investing passively, both good & bad, as well as the common denominators he's seen in his successful partners and the importance of transparent communication.
If you've ever wanted to partner with someone else, or invest in someone else's deal, then you'll want to hear what Randy has to say. Randy can be reached by email at firstname.lastname@example.org
There are many creative ways to Buy & Sell Real Estate, while creating Owner Financed Paper in the process. And my guest today has done them all. Brad Smotherman owns and manages a 7-figure per year Flipping Business called American Community Investments and holds Notes across middle Tennessee. He's invested in 14 states and completed 100's of transactions.
Brad is going to discuss what it means to purchase a property 'Subject To' the existing mortgage, and what happens when the lender 'Calls In' the loan. You'll also learn what a 'Wraparound' Mortgage is, and how you can profit from creating one.
Brad also discusses how he's able to purchase property with zero percent owner financing, the importance of mentorship, what it means to 'Buy Equity', and why Wholesalers are leaving money on the table by not employing the strategies he's discovered.
There are a lot of great tips and techniques that you'll learn in today's conversation. Many of them haven't been discussed on the show before. Brad can be contacted through his website: http://www.bradsmotherman.com
And you can also check out his podcast called "Investor Creator"
Welcome to a very special 200th Episode! To celebrate I thought it would be fun to have a conversation with the man who made this podcast possible – Clay Powell, the director of the Rental Property Owners Association.
Clay and I will be talking about the importance of organizations like the RPOA and how we’re helping landlords and investors through the good times, which is what we’ve all been experiencing for the past ten years, and the anticipated downturn that many economists are expecting to happen in the next year or two.
We'll also discuss how the RPOA is positioning itself to be at the forefront of helping landlords and investors no matter what the economy is doing. We also have exciting news about the RPOA’s Real Estate Investor Mastery Training Program, and how its now going to be accessible beyond the West Michigan area. We’ll also discuss the RPOA’s knowledge base, where we answer the most frequently asked questions.
You'll also get a peak behind the curtains of the podcast, and I'll be revealing the top three episodes and guests of all time. You'll also get a sneak peak at the Annual Conference, and the featured speakers we'll be bringing to you in 2020. If you're wondering how you can prepare yourself for the eventual downturn, and prosper during both good times and bad, this is an episode you won't want to miss.
Clay can be reached through the Rental Property Owners Association by going to www. rpoaonline.org